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The Tortoise and the Hare| Revisionist History podcast with Malcolm Gladwell E2/S4 (Transcript)

The Tortoise and the Hare

Episode 2| Season 4| Revisionist History
Length: 42 mins | Released: June 27, 2019

To see the full transcript, go here.

Malcolm Gladwell: April 24th, 2009. The late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is speaking at American University’s Washington College of Law.

Antonin Scalia: Thank you. Thank you very much, Professor Marcus, Dean Grossman, ladies and gentlemen. I began one of my either talks or Law Review articles…

Malcolm Gladwell: The students are all dressed up for the occasion, C-SPAN is recording, there’s a big stage hung with blue polyester drapes. Scalia holds forth, his black hair swept back from his forehead, glasses on his nose, strong and square, all intellectual heft and force, gripping the podium like it’s a slab of beef.

Antonin Scalia: Administrative Law is not for sissies. It is a very difficult course to teach, and I assume — it certainly was in my day — a hard course to master.

Malcolm Gladwell: It’s vintage Scalia. The audience hangs on his every word. He finishes triumphantly then hands shoot in the air.

Christina Stutt: Good afternoon. My name is Christina Stutt, I’m a 1L student here at WCL.

Malcolm Gladwell: Christina Stutt, first year student.

Christina Stutt: I have a more general question and that is that part of the American ethos is that our society is a meritocracy where hard work and talent lead to success, but there are other important factors like connections and elite degrees and I’m wondering, other than grades and journal, what do smart, hardworking WCL students with strong writing skills need to do to be sick outrageously successful in the law?

Malcolm Gladwell: “What does it take to be outrageously successful in the law.”

Antonin Scalia: Hahaha. Just work hard and be very good. Now, I’ll tell you a story…

Malcolm Gladwell: My name is Malcolm Gladwell. You’re listening to Revisionist History, my podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood. This episode is part two of my examination of the bizarre things the legal profession does to pick its best and brightest.

Malcolm Gladwell: In part one, which if you haven’t listened to, you probably should, I took the law school admissions test along with my assistant, Camille, and couldn’t understand why they made me rush through all the questions. But now, in part two, we have bigger fish to fry. I’m going to serve up Malcolm Gladwell’s grand unified theory of how to fix American legal education. No, make that my grand unified theory for fixing all American higher education.

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